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I don't believe China will ever invade Taiwan unless something very majorly changes with regard to the status quo. Xi Jinping explicitly stated that "Chinese will not fight Chinese". Unllike Russia, which has a long history of invasions and annexations, China's last major military conflict was with... [Vietnam, in 1988, over the Spratley Islands...]
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_South_Reef_skirmish)

&gt;Seventh, he reiterated a line from former President Jiang Zemin’s speech on Taiwan from January 1995: “Chinese will not fight Chinese.” On the other hand, Xi would not commit Beijing to abandoning the use of force and said it would “reserve the option to take any necessary measure.” This threat was directed, he said, “at the interference of external forces [code for the United States] and at an extremely small number of ‘Taiwan independence’ separatists and their separatist activities.” Chinese leaders would themselves interpret this vague formulation.

There is a non-zero chance that China invading Taiwan would destroy the Chinese Communist Party. Why would they risk that for a chance at maybe taking over an extremely defensible mountainous island of 20 million people who hate your guts and will destroy all of their semiconductor factories the moment you arrive just to spite you?

Yes, there is a large buildup of military capabilities and even naval blockades. Naturally, like any major power, they want to be unhindered by the wills of any other major power, and both internally and externally they are heavily invested in sending a strong message regarding their position on Taiwan - but, and maybe I'll eat my words, and you can all point at my comment in 2031 and laugh, I don't believe the calculus is such that a rational, self-interested CCP would ever take that risk.

Oxidopamine

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Always. A new conflict between smaller countries ALWAYS has the potential to start a domino effect. Once a superpower gets involved it’s almost guaranteed other superpowers will be forced to engage. 

The world is over run by narcissistic men.  Living in peace under such bravado and the inability to compromise to overcome past wrongs is impossible.

greenbigman

If Trump allows the US to get pulled into a war started by Israel, Trump will NEVER take responsibility.

LolaSupreme19

If I were a head of state in the Middle East or Asia, I would be forced to treat the US as a wild card at the moment

With its current leadership, the ‘proportional response’ of the Bush and Obama years cannot be counted on

henryjonesjr83

One thing that bears mentioning is that the GBU-57 munition being proposed for a potential attack against the Fordo nuclear site is unlikely to cause irreparable damage in a single strike. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/19/trump-caution-on-iran-strike-linked-to-doubts-over-bunker-buster-bomb-officials-say?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

It does not appear that any proposed US involvement could be realistically curtailed after a single operation. 

I think it's also worth noting that Russia's media assets in the US (Carlson et al.) are some of the most outspoken voices calling for the US to withhold from getting directly involved in the conflict. To me, that appears to suggest that any US involvement would weaken Russia's, and potentially China's current positions.

All that said, if the US were to get directly involved, Iran's likely response would include attempting to stop shipping through the Straight of Hormuz, which would dramatically restrict the global oil supply and increase Russia's oil export revenue as costs soared. That would be a significant benefit to Russia as it continues its invasion of Ukraine. It's unclear how significantly a destabilized Iran would negatively impact Putin's war efforts.

I am under the impression that Xi Jinpeng has set a timeline to be prepared for a military invasion of Taiwan around 2027. https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2024/05/07/how-dc-became-obsessed-with-a-potential-2027-chinese-invasion-of-taiwan/

I do not believe that the US becoming embroiled in another war in the middle east would shift China's timeline forward. If the US is militarily impotent after that date, China would likely feel emboldened to pursue an invasion of Taiwan.

Herr_Tilke

Currently U.S. involvement would be in the form of tactical airstrikes. For the U.S. that is low commitment and low investment. Easy to justify sitting around a giant table discussing options. 

If in response Iran or a terrorist group like Hamas or Hezbollah attacked U.S. bases in Bahrain, Navy ships in the Persian Gulf, killed American contractors in Qatar, took U.S. hostages from the UAE, etc the U.S. would be drawn into a deeper conflict. 

How China and Russia (both Iranian allies) respond matter too. In the same way the U.S. provided weapons and intelligence to Ukraine to hurt Russia so too would Iran receive support to hurt the U.S..

8to24

It is of course un-Constitutional for the President to unilaterally decide to bomb another country in a clear act of war. Going to war with another country is not the President's decision, it requires Congress to authorize military action against another country.

I'm not sure how Congress would go in this case, Iran poses no threat to the United States, has not attacked us, and has no real way to do so. 

Similar to our losses in Iraq and Afghanistan, we have no ability to occupy the country even if we could conquer it. Iran is twice the size of Texas and has 90 million people. Nation-building is a ridiculous goal.

billpalto

US invades Iran, Russia pushes in Ukraine maybe even moves against nato, Finland probably, china moves to Taiwan… it’s possible!

ScubaW00kie

Over time. 

Regardless of what we think of Iran's theological position, it is clear that they are capable of hitting Israel a few times every day. A land invasion of Iran is not going to succeed. This conflict is going to drag on.   

The biggest beneficiary of Israel's attack on Iran is Ukraine. Russia will eventually have to make a move to protect its weapon supplier.

Sure_Nefariousness56

TACO

Trump Always Chickens Out

Are you waiting for the Tik Tok ban? The trade deals? Ukraine war to end? 

Putin said to not bomb Iran and therefore we are not bombing Iran

TACO remains the standard

RCA2CE

To those who say Xi would never invade Taiwan, 2 things:


1. The more (&amp; more widespread) conflicts the U. S. inserts itself into, the more we'll just end up stretching our forces thinner. China now has the world's 2nd-largest standing Army &amp; the world's largest Navy fleet, they're NOT stretched thin by any foreign conflicts, &amp; Taiwan is literally in their backyard.


2. Taiwan is the world's principal producer of semiconductors, @ 60% of the world's supply. Anyone else out there remember Saddam's motivation for invading Kuwait? Well in this case, the semiconductors are to Xi what the oil was to Saddam. If Xi was to seize control of Taiwan's semiconductor industry he'd suddenly have the world's economy by the b@ll$ in a similar manner. &amp; He knows that with the full force &amp; weight of his military he'd not only crush Taiwan instantly, but he'd also deter the U. S. or anyone else from intervening. 

HansSolo69er

It seems unlikely to me, for two reasons. First of all, the reaction to Israel's attack has been surprisingly (to me, anyway) muted. It appears that Iran is so hated and feared by the other neighboring states that Israel got a quiet green light not just from the US but them as well. Second, neither Russia nor China has any great interest in starting WW3, or even pushing back against a US invasion. They would probably prefer a long, grinding guerilla war that wears the US down, even if it ends in pyrrhic victory a la Iraq.

The_Awful-Truth

Russia, China, North Korea and Pakistan, will not let Americans set some military base so close of them (if USA plan to interfere). Not to mention, USA cannot go on such military campaign with their debt, and the allies (such as canada, Europe and UK) starting to divest their trade, since Trump tariff war them.   
Not to mention that there are already massive protest happening within the USA, engaging the military and the polices against US citizen.   
It would be suicidal for the US to go on such a global war.  
Israel is a liability for the US, draining tax payer money, not to mention Israel blowup potential deals with golf countries. It's time to let go.

TanukiDev

The U.S. should not bomb Iran. If the U.S. had a plan, that would be different. However, it was Israel that bombed to the surprise of America. If the U.S. invades, it needs a lot of planning, not a sudden attack forced by Israel. 

If the U.S. bombs Iran, it should be ready to send a million troops to occupy Iran. That, the U.S. is not ready for. Just bombing the mountain at Fordow is not enough.

At most, the U.S. should sell Israel some 30,000 lb. bunker buster bombs and have Israel modify their C-130's to carry the bunker buster. Israel knows how to jerry rig stuff to make it work.

RB9001A

Very possible. I will say it’s been very amusing watching how Republicans respond to this. It’s highlighted who the Russian plants are and who the AIPAC plants are in their party.

Ozymandias12

First of all, thank you OP for saying “it raises the question” and not erroneously saying “it begs the question.”

To answer your question: **no, attacking Iran would not trigger a larger global war.**

Iran has no real allies outside of their non-state proxies. All of their state “friends” are friends of convenience, not true allies. Iran is run by belligerents who intentionally cause instability throughout the region. No state will stick out their neck to help Iran. The most-likely “friend” would be Russia, but they’re waging a war of their own. It’s gone so poorly that they’ve needed to use North Korean meat shields to fill their ranks and armaments for their eroding stockpiles. Even if they wanted to, they’re not in a position to help Iran.

Also, most Iranians aren’t too thrilled with their regime - especially the young people. How many of them would volunteer to fight the regional military superpower *and* the world military superpower for a regime that doesn’t even have control of their skies above their capital?

As for China/Taiwan, I believe the PLA can only cross the Taiwan Strait safely during two windows per year. Otherwise, it’s not easily navigable and highly risky. Even if the USA got involved in the Iranian conflict and was “distracted,” China still needs to operate within the laws of physics. If it’s not physically possible to safely cross the strait, they’re not invading. Even still, it’s something they’re actively preparing for with their massive shipbuilding operation, so attacking now would definitionally be attacking prematurely. I’m sure they prefer to do things on their schedule, not Iran’s.

BettisBus

In the short term, most likely not. Iran does not have many allies - their Syrian friends no longer control Syria, Hamas already has its hands full, Russia is tied up in Ukraine, and China is more like an arms dealer of convenience than an ally

Meanwhile, the other large power in the middle east, Saudi Arabia, would like nothing better than for Iran to get dunked on. I would fully expect SA to get directly involved in this at some point.

Now you might ask if China might take advantage of this to make moves on Taiwan or the South China Sea, but that also does not seem likely. Europe is kinda sore at Israel regarding the Gaza conflict, and likely would not aid their goals in Iran. BUT, we have seen more European involvement in the Pacific lately, shoring up their SEA, Japanese, and Australian relationships to stand against China. Further, a key Russian ally and supplier being crippled could help to lower the temperatures in Ukraine, allowing Europeans to pay even more attention to the Pacific if need be.

In the long term, a destabilized Iran will probably also destabilize neighboring (also Shia-majority) Iraq, and could lead to the rise of new large, technologically-advanced terrorist cells

theyfellforthedecoy

Two weeks has always been Trump-shorthand for never. So this may be nothing more than sick and twisted global ploy for attention.

napalm_beach

I'm rather optimistic for now. Only Russia is there to help Iran militarily now. Russia, however, can't fight another war now.

China also wouldn't want to find itself in a war against the US.

bedrooms-ds

I'm not sure how the situation could get any worse in the Middle East so far as broadening the conflict goes.

Hamas is pretty much broken as a fighting force, Hezbollah wants no part of anything. Syria is too busy rebuilding itself, Iraq has little to contribute one way or another, while the rest of the Middle East most likely won't get involved. So not much will change if the US attacks Iran, I think. A lot of condemnation, but no military response.

Ukraine is what it is. Russia weakens with every successful Ukrainian strike, but not enough to quit, not yet. If the EU steps up support, the stalemate will continue.

China will continue to saber-rattle, but I don't really think they would try an invasion no matter what, the risks are too great in this era of sea and air drones. Their navy is still too young and inexperienced to be trusted to win the day.

The biggest problems would be in the US, where a simmering civil war is developing. The attacks upon California's economy are unrelenting, the immigrant communities that so many industries across the nation depend upon are being attacked illegally and unconstitutionally, Democrats are being arrested for being Democrats, veterans are at risk of being denied VA healthcare for their political views, corrupt judicial rulings are destroying trust and faith in the system. If Trump bombs Iran, it will have repercussions among his base, which could be the final disillusionment for many. Trump can't afford to risk losing the House and Senate in the midterms, so if his base starts turning against him, he's likely to try to suspend elections. Where we go from there is anyone's guess. The US is a powderkeg of anger, fear, resentment and distrust, just waiting for a trigger to explode into chaos and disarray.

Tliish

USS Carl Vinson Carrier Strike Group (CSG) is currently underway in the Arabian Sea. The USS Nimitz CSG is in the Indian Ocean and making good speed to join up with Vinson, and the [USS Harry S. Truman](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=f7661461505a9ca6&amp;cs=1&amp;q=USS+Harry+S.+Truman&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjs_63P2ICOAxX6mokEHXSlD_4QxccNegQIBRAB&amp;mstk=AUtExfC9zoCGPfdyTpQ14JJcGkmQCpgtxYWJhdbe-ZD2-WHw-aBoUDjJ0WLDOEgdgvZnjTVpPQT3ZlfD4kwiuB6aeXFPALlN8-Lh85bKC7zVts-OICaIdD07oVDsbQR75sg3V_ikQQy-SZHCYn92X1AHLCRwhTFVqPX0Vfc9VGJXcAEaOhXcHQCoRmOwhEeLscHSmGhW&amp;csui=3) CSG is in the Red Sea. This weekend is the go date, the deep state has spoken. TACO is being sidelined.

KappaBera

&gt; If the situation in Iran spirals into a larger conflict, it raises the question: could this instability open the door for China to make a move on Taiwan?

No for the same reason US assistance to Ukraine massively disincentives China from invading Taiwan.

China has three strategic choices with an invasion of Taiwan.

1. A preemptive surprise attack on US and Allied forces in the Western Pacific theater. This would massively increase the odds of success short-term, but guarantee that the US joins the war and has the necessary political will to see it through to the end. This is a massive risk, so they probably won't go for it.
2. A soft blockade of Taiwan, but no actual military force other than boarding of commercial vessels bound for Taiwan. A military invasion would follow months or years later after the blockade has attritted Taiwan's ability to resist. This would probably work quite well as long as the US doesn't get involved. If they do, this turns into a near guaranteed loss for the Chinese.
3. An outright military invasion of Taiwan. This again the Chinese probably win, but only if the US doesn't get involved.

The US showing that it will get involved to actively defend allied interests around the world sends a clear signal to the Chinese that that's exactly what we'd do for Taiwan as well.

There is some balance of not being completely overstretched, which is where obviously a ground invasion of Iran would be a bad idea. Showing off your shiny toys does given them data on how they work, but it also shows them that we're not a paper tiger and our tech does work. If I'm China right now, I'm terrified of how fast Israel's F-35 fleet was able to decapitate Iran's air defense network. Having US air assets loitering over Beijing is not something that's on their bucket list for the regime to survive in a long-term conflict.

kormer

Russia would bail on China, Russia historically prioritizes their own survival many time over more than their sworn alliances. 

It would be China and NK versus the entire western world and any of those others who want to be on the winning side. 

Ultimately, the Chinese will likely face a revolt before they are about to fight a full scale war against the world. It’s not pretty over there for their citizens.

couchweather

Vladimir Adolf Trump has now attacked the Iranian nuclear sites. Now expect your fuel costs to almost double in the next month. Idiot war bringer.

Admirable_Pepper_227

I wouldn’t say China will invade Taiwan in 2 years or whatever most people say but I would say there wanting to. 
China realizes that with Russia and now Iran severely weakened they cannot fight a war on their own against the USA and NATO. 
So I think there playing the waiting game to wait for a Disconnection of NATO and the USA or waiting for the United States to be severely weakened before they invade Taiwan. 
A prolonged war like where the USA Militarily gets involved is just what they need that’s if it lasts longer then a few months to a year.
It’s also not helping that trump is somehow managing to Piss off all the leaders around the globe to the point that trade agreements are getting reached with China.

Necessary_Mix2157

As we now know, the "two weeks" thing was Trumpian 5D chess. Hail War President Trump! Hail victory!

2minutestomidnight

Iran doesn't really seem to be in a position to engage in a full-scale war right now. From what I understand, the recent strikes targeted their nuclear facilities after negotiations broke down. I doubt there will be a major retaliation maybe some escalation through proxies or isolated incidents, but that kind of activity has been happening already anyway.

InsideQuestion771

let's start #WW3, #Rusia #China and #NorthKorea promise to stop this dictator #America so called #Democracy but worst than #Nazi! #History will remember #US, there's a lot of line they cross, we can't just stand and let this warmonger country do whatever they want without consequence...

VIsixxx6

let's start #WW3, #Rusia #China and #NorthKorea promise to stop this dictator #America so called #Democracy but worst than #Nazi! #History will remember #US, there a lot of line crossed, for humanity

let's start #WW3, #Rusia #China and #NorthKorea promise to stop this dictator #America so called #Democracy but worst than #Nazi, #History will remember #US, there's a lot of line crossed, there is no nuke weapon facility in iran make this attack become unprovoken assault by american, when tirany is law, revolution is order!!!

Considering the USA has just attacked iran, I feel this is deeply worrying, Iran has vowed to retaliate so far in response to the usa’s involvement,I feel like this could possibly start a domino effect if Iran and the USA get into a war with each other, with china and Russia possibly getting involved, it’s a waiting game now but it’s very worrying and a lot of innocent lives could be lost

gotnocreativenames

No..in a word.  In addition, what the US military did in Iran may just be the biggest deterrent to future potential aggressors around the world because of the demonstration that the US can project military power anywhere in the world on short notice.

The exception is Iran's current terrorist regime which believes they are on a mission from Allah.  All bets are off with that theocracy which often does not act in any sort of rational manner like most of the rest of the world.

mrjcall

This subheading is typical American media going with the shallow narrative:

&gt;The president is hoping that threatening to join Israel’s strikes will lead Tehran to abandon its nuclear program

Factory-town

It already is kind of a big global war. Iran backs Hamas, which attacked Israel and triggered a new conflict in the Gaza Strip. While also selling drones to Russia, which are then used to terrorize Ukraine, who themselves are being supported by NATO. Iran is also sold military hardware by China, who want to forcefully annex Taiwan, who’s navy is almost on par with the US Navy, and who will certainly clash with the US the second they step foot on Taiwan.

Its why I’m wondering if limited US involvement in Iran, that degrades their military capabilities along with their enrichment program, would ironically go a long way in de-escalating the conflicts in the Middle East and Ukraine.

DJ_HazyPond292

China gave a statement yesterday, if America gets involved in Iran, they will have no choice but to do the same and back Iran.  So if trump does this, say goodbye!

Inside-Palpitation25

🍿 this one wins but OP you have to keep it updated. reply here with other dramatic threads around reddit too 🍿

TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK

"War is horrible."

*One Fox News segment later*

“War is peace.”

Guillotines__

The next few days will be existential chaos, but within 72 hours they will have convinced themselves this is what they always wanted.


After a month or so they'll have completely memory-holed that it even happened.

weirdoldhobo1978

Give em 3 days to get their talking points and they will all have always supported this.

Shred_Kid

&gt; and they have proven any diplomatic option is untenable because they just ignore whatever treaty/deal you sign

Are they fucking serious? Does this mouth breather not remember conservatives cheering Trump when he unilaterally tore up the Iran Nuclear deal during his first administration?

NotAnAlienFromVenus

[Someone has unironically blamed Obama for this lmaoooo](https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/s/EOJTPUr6Vy). We live in a pisshead society

SheZowRaisedByWolves

Conservatives and GOP can get out of lines for only short period of time and will come back to suck Trump's dick for money. They'll be okay with US bombing Iran by Monday morning.

Pleasant-Ad887

r/Conservative is cheating at this point lmao

A_MASSIVE_PERVERT

I read a lot of support for the attack. No matter what he does, they will support no matter what.

LordDarthShader

&gt; A pretty well-executed ruse. Turns out when everyone reads your tweets you can fool a lot of people

This is the worst timeline lmao.

Teal_is_orange

To be clear, the entire Trump admin doesn't want to bail Europe out, but we are going to bomb Iran because Israel asked really nicely? 

I don't even believe these are real people anymore. Like genuinely the entire subreddit needs to be a psyop.

bobbymcpresscot

Trump voters are looking like total idiots. What else is new? 

JetTheDawg

[This War Will Destabilize The Entire Mideast Region And Set Off A Global Shockwave Of Anti-Americanism vs. No It Won’t](https://theonion.com/this-war-will-destabilize-the-entire-mideast-region-and-1819594296/)

Mecha-Jesus

They’re already following the narrative. One user commented “ a few missiles and bomb prevented a terrorist state from getting nukes. I see this as a win”.

maximusbrown2809

Those idiots think we drop a bomb and that’s the end of it. 

The rationalizing they do, every. single. day. is otherworldly. 

Truly gargling the orange doofus’ balls 24/7, no matter what.

Sidney_Godsby

These fucking idiots are yelling at each other and trying to justify this by saying it’s not an act of war and that Trump has full authority to do this, without congressional approval. 

If Iran fucking bombed us in the same exact way, you sure as shit know they would all be calling it an act of war. 

These people are just so incredibly stupid. It’s terrifying how many of them are now in charge of our fate as a species.

qukab

Trump can kill its own people and those guys will cheer him on. When you are in cult, nothing your great leader does is a crime.

Urwake

It's already happening in real time. You can see the sentiment become this has been a great move from Trump

Le_Champion

Maga Conservatives always blindly support their king.

Oceanbreeze871

I'd love to see the warmongers keep their word and deploy to the frontlines before anyone else

After-Bumblebee

This is always going to be the same, they'll just fall in line like the npcs they are.

t850terminator

Came across this gem: "There was also the earthquake near one of Iran's nuclear sites. It's possible it may have been a bomb test. I wouldn't be surprised if it was; and if it was, then we has no choice but to strike now instead of after the two weeks."

Like, is it theoretically possible? Yes. But if it was, wouldn't Israel and the US be screaming about this from the rooftops?  Also isn't testing a nuclear weapon kinda hard when your top scientists and military leaders are being killed before they can show up to work?

SnowingRain320

I monitor that sub a lot as my pulse on the right.

3 Weeks Ago - We voted for no new wars! Stop funding (((Israel))).  America First!

2 Weeks Ago - Why won't Iran make a deal with Trump? Are they stupid?

1 Week Ago - IDK, sounds like we might have to bomb Iran to teach them a lesson.

Tonight - KAW KAW Motherfuckers!  That is freedom making peace bombs in your face!  USA USA!  We won, now peace!

Tad0422

Those who are complaining about Donald will be downvoted, removed and banned. Within an hour the sub will be back to normal with usual fellating of Donald.

Barack_Odrama_007

&gt;diplomatic option is untenable because they just ignore whatever treaty/deal you sign.
 
... they were following the agreement they made with Obama, until trump tore it up in 2017 and said "let's do the same thing but with my name on it" and they told trump to fuck off. They STILL kept to that agreement because multiple other nations signed it. **WE** are the assholes who ignore what treaty/deal is signed. Just like with NAFTA. Just like with the trade agreement trump signed with NA during his first term (that he called a POS). JUST LIKE EVERY FUCKING TRADE DEAL HE DESTROYED WITH TARIFFING THE ENTIRE WORLD.
 
Just amazing how fucking confidently fucking stupidly ignorant these dipshits are. Just armchairs secs of state being the dumbest mfers this side of the Atlantic. Fuck.

Bored_Amalgamation

&gt; Trump is being strategically vague because...


Because he doesn't know what he's doing and is just jumping on whatever course of action feels good/he's sold on. I don't think the US has a plan for what to do next. Just roll the dice and see what happens.

Mysterious-Tax-7777

I thought we didnt want Kamala because we didnt want forever wars or inflation? 

Cause its only 6 months in and we are already bombing another country.

babypho

Looking at some of their profiles is incredibly funny

pawksvolts

Just yesterday I wrote a comment saying tail was wagging the dog when it comes to US-Israel relationship and what happened afterwards further proved this point.

Comment about the Middle East's hatred for the US is mostly about Israel is right. The greatest destabilizing force of the region *is* Israel because of what they have done and things that have been done to keep them safe for decades. 

They've bombed 4 countries around them in the last year and invaded 3 of them, slaughtered tens of thousands of innocents, starved children and massacred help workers trying to save lives. And every time they faced consequences of their actions, they just doubled down on brutality.

People act as if Iran would have immediately launched nuclear weapons if they produced them. North Korea, perhaps the single most belligerent country on the planet, has nuclear weapons and all they have done is run their mouth. Because even they know that nukes can't be used without risking annihilation.

What nukes actually would've changed is they would've prevented Israel from being able to attack Iran whenever they wanted. The only reason for this war is that Israel's hegemony and future imperialistic plans were threatened and nothing more.

jay_alfred_prufrock

In old enough to remember when like 65% of conservatives said they wouldn’t vote for Trump if he was convicted of his felonies…

It’s Insane that Trump has done an absolute speed run of Bush’s bs WMD campaign in a weeks time. Absolutely no evidence provided that Iran was ‘weeks away,’ other than Netanyahu, the same guy who has been saying they are ‘weeks away’ every month since the 90s. This is literally Iraq all over again, but with a county 2x as big and with a much more robust military. All these Conservative chuds moved the goalposts immediately, repeating the same dumb talking points their parents were using in 2003. Fuck these guys.

bob_scratchit

The top post there right now says “Peace through Strength” - it’s so on the nose for 1984’s “war is peace” slogan I cant even believe it.

Larry-Man

soneforlife

These people always freak out about "being brigaded" when during 2020/2021 you had people like Joe Rogan, Tim Poole, Elon Musk, etc. complaining about how ALL speech should be welcomed with conservative parroting that ALL views were welcome in the marketplace of ideas. Calling them hypocrites at this point is just redundant.

JohnnySack45

we have seen this cycle like 5 billion times now. in a few days they'll all be cheering how great of an idea this was and claim Trump "always" campaigned on this (already seen them arguing that the past 72 hours anyways). there is not one single issue they will stake a morale claim on except for obeying Trump

welltimedappearance

Man if only we had reached an agreement to limit their nuclear program like 10 years ago and followed through on it…maybe this whole mess could have been avoided. Oh well, who could have seen this coming! Hindsight 20/20 and all.

PositionNecessary292

As a Ukrainian, I'm laughing while reading  posts about "peace through strength".

And remember, it's Ukraine is "gambling with WW3" because don't want to surrender

WillingnessHeavy8622

War should be the two leaders dueling with a gun. Sacrifice yourself.

SinfullySinless

Iron dome has a hard time with longer range ballistics. 

Hopefully this can end as fast as possible with as little death as can be managed.

UnoriginalJ0k3r

So 2 got through out of how many launched? How many dead in Israel?

MangoShadeTree

"Shoot zem, shoot zem both..."

(Points for the movie)

Hey, are those military facilities in densely populated civilian areas? It looks like those missiles are shooting up from the ground from in and around a city. Is Israel using civilians as human shields?

Bubbly-Money-7157

Iran has threatened israel with complete and total annihilation for decades now. All they were waiting for was the ability to create nuclear weapons. That is not propaganda or fake news. Its fact. Israel determined that iran was too close to achieving said goal. Its just as simple as that.

Enough-Silver-915

Let’s say there’s a timeline where Israel didn’t attack Iran. Iran would have nuclear weapons within a month or two. What do you think a nuclear armed Iran would do? Why don’t one of you Iran supporters play that out for me over the next five years or so?

Optimal_Weird1425

In the 70s, the idea of multiple valid perspectives in the culture (brings lots of progressive ideas, like hippy culture) brought enough resentment to cause a violent revolution, which oppresses women to this day (they dropped to the “Law and order” way of thinking). 

It’s confusing how progressives are choosing to side with Iran when it is so anti-progressive. Reminds me of Queers for Palestine.

HotPerformance6137

Russia just lost its source of drones in the Ukraine war.

mrev_art

Humans really are stupid creatures. "My sky god is better than yours!" "No mine is!" Moronic

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Drewzzie_drew

This is ridiculous. The planet is burning up and all these middle to late aged men can think about is more war.

second_last_jedi

Thanks chat gpt.

I swear people can’t think for themselves anymore with ai

AccordingMedicine129

Fun_Imagination_904

Israel is not going to stop until it has defanged Iran.   And it shouldn’t.  It is not acceptable or safe for Iran to have nuclear capability.  And Iran has already tried to attack a US base in the region with drones, so they are trying to drag us in.  God help them if they drag us into this.  Between the US and Israel, we’ll send Iran back to the Stone Age.

JarHead-Actual-0302

What is the crisis point exactly? Like what point is that?

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WeakPast1817

\&gt;&gt;the possibility of this turning into a wider war is growing by the hour.&lt;&lt;

I don't see that happening.

Solopist112

Ok_Place_2551

Could of sworn Trump said, there would be no wars on his watch 🤔

Invest_and_ballout

bacachew

It's crazy that the ones who suffer the most are the people who have absolutely nothing to do with it and nothing to gain.

Durivage4

Hey guys I was searching YouTube to find videos and I typed “Israel attacks…” and then sooooo many places came up. Which one is it today?

Visible_Turnover3952

Thought Trump could prevent wars or end them in 24hrs.  If thos were under Biden they would scream weakness to allow this

MuchRoutine1979

Following US strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities, Iranian officials condemned the actions, signaling a deepening crisis.

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